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Poster: kochman Date: Mar 6, 2014 5:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: We don't need no more trouble

Oh absolutely both were multivariate!
I think when people say "Reagan won the CW", they don't (generally) mean single-handedly. He was just, as Gorbachev said so clearly, "instrumental". There could have been other instrumental people to do it perhaps, though not from the offerings of the D Party at the time. The D's hadn't shifted into today's neocon Ds yet.

The USSR provided the most manpower, in WW2, tying down 45 German "Armies", while on the Western Front we fought only 5!

But... I would stop short of saying the Russians would have defeated Germany without our aid (including the financial aid before our solid material aid got there).
Stalingrad wasn't the end for Germany, it was the beginning of the end of a world effort against them...

Futhermore, without the UK/US strategic bombing of Germany, plus the other (albeit relatively minor) fronts of Africa, Italy and then France, as well as the much smaller efforts of the raid on Norway, etc which tied down yet more German troops, air force and resources... I am not sure the Russians would have defeated Germany at all.

If you want to discuss this further, which I would be happy to do, perhaps we should take it somewhere else?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2014 6:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: We don't need no more trouble

Cool; yeah, we're fine--besides, we gotta do this HERE every five yrs to bore the beejeebers outta everyone.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 6, 2014 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: I'd kill to see just a little trouble around here

This place has provided an excellent alternative to Ambien.


Good God, what's happened to us? It's a sad state of affairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2PhYFK8Bw

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2014 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I'd kill to see just a little trouble around here

Yes, I fear we figuratively and LITERALLY "put Rob to sleep"...after surviving Dire, Thatcher, and Blair, he succumbs to our mind-numbing "secret weapon": The DEAD Forum (means what it sez, eh?...).

Putin? We don't need no stinking Putin for the obliteration of the Free World! We do it here, one tired brain cell at a time...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 6, 2014 11:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I'd kill to see just a little trouble around here

Well, this place is certainly Putin-me to sleep lately (insert rim-shot here).


With puns like that its no wonder our resident self-absorbed and self-appointed intellectual Scotsman is such a rare sight in these parts.

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Poster: kochman Date: Mar 6, 2014 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: We don't need no more trouble

Hahahaha, yes! Why not. It provides me a cathartic historical release... a form of mental masturbation.